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« on: February 24, 2010, 02:17:53 PM »

Hi Guys,

here is the issue:

The Head bowl on my rinker 270 f.v mod 2002, is fixed in place with (if i remember correct) 4 or 5 big screws, which are screwed to the hull. suppose all 270 are the same.

Due to water penetration (during shower) inside the holes where the bolds are screwed,   and the absence of silicon around it (which I applied but too late), the bolds have lost their fix with the hull (the hull/internal material/wood became loose) , having as a consequence  the head bowl to become unfixed due to the vibrations during cruising (especially in choppy/ wavy seas).

I have filled the holes of the screws with silicon and then screwed them in place, but unfortunately did not last.

The point is that I cannot find an access to  put nuts in screws so that to repair properly and permanent .

Most likely I need to find another way to repair.

Any ideas or patent for this?

Thks for any reply to this.

Brgds
Alex

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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »

This was a topic a year ago or so I may or may not be able to find it. The problem is they thru bolted the head in then put the boat together bang head what you have to do is cut an axcess panel about a 3 or 4 inch round in the flat spot under the head to the floor. Then you can screw the axcess open and keep it secure.


Found This it may help
http://www.rinkerboatowners.com/forum/index.php/topic,641.0.html
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 05:22:47 PM »

Thanks for the reply 'babyboomer'.

Just to clarify, and sorry about  that, i might have made a mistake descibing the issue as head bowl. i actually mean the toilet bowl and not the head bowl.

Next time i will for sure check on a dictionary.... blush

pls advise any ideas.

thks
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 06:06:59 PM »

Thanks for the reply 'babyboomer'.

Just to clarify, and sorry about  that, i might have made a mistake descibing the issue as head bowl. i actually mean the toilet bowl and not the head bowl.

Next time i will for sure check on a dictionary.... blush

pls advise any ideas.

thks
alex



Same thing you mean the Toilet right, that's what I was describing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 01:01:39 AM »

the original mounting for the head bowl to floor was through bolted.  Could yours have been changed in the past?  Scews will not adiquatly hold the head assy to the floor.  The floor assy is made of 3/4" marine ply bonded to fiberglass.   Al
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 07:43:31 AM »

Thanks for your replies guys...

It looks like quite a big job.

I was thinking the idea to fill the holds of the screws with a special material (sort of a plastic concrete type/ if exist on the market) which will get hardened after the application and then to reopen the holes and place the screws once again at the same position.

By this method maybe i will have the toilet bowl stable??

Any ideas to the above??

thks alex
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 09:18:15 AM »

Again, the design is to be through bolted, not screwed.  But, If you clean out all of the previous silicone or caulking out of the holes, and do a fiberglass repair with an oak wood dowell, this will suffice.  Try to not mount in exact same position as the original location, off set the mount by 3/4"   Al
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 10:31:44 AM »

I would recommend cutting the access hole to through bolt the toilet.  My 420 was delivered with a screwed down head rather than being through bolted.  Our new boat was only a couple of days old when the Admiral nearly fell off when the screws pulled out.  ROFL ROFL   Needless to say, she was not pleased!   ROFL ROFL

The dealer cut a 4 inch access hole in the side of the pedestal the head is mounted on and through bolted the toilet down.  They filled the hole with an access cover.  Everyone's happy now.

If there is room on a 270 to cut the access hole, take that route rather than screwing it down.
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